EBAY SCAM!!! Talk about the devil

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Mooi verhaal, afgelopen dagen veel oude en recente threads over EBAY, betalen en foute mensen gelezen. Heb ik van het weekend voor de grap eens een keer laag op een Matrix 12 op Ebay US geboden (heb momenteel geen 2000 pleuro) krijg ik net notabebene onderstaand binnen. Op de laatste nog niet gereageerd, ik ben heel erg benieuwd naar jullie meningen (en ga uiteraard geen geld richting Italie sturen tenzij iemand me kan overtuigen dat dit goed zit, haha, 1300 voor eenMatrix 12 loop ik wel ff voor naar de bank :-)) (ps namen ff weggelaten)

1:
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To member: **********
From member: ********
hello,
i want to make you a great offer, i have the OBERHEIM MATRIX 12 SYNTHESIZER
i had a contract with a mall in Europe and this item remaind in my stock
I am not selling it on ebay because i want to avoid the fees, and like this i think
that it is better for both of us
if interested i expect your mail at (ander adres dan afzender)
thx,
Melissa
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This email was sent by an eBay member via eBay.ca's email forwarding system.
If you reply to the email, your response will go directly to the member and not through eBay.
etc standaar ebay tekst
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2:
Hi Melissa,
Of course I am interested in a Matrix 12 for a good price without Ebay interference. But there are a few things I do not understand: -I only bid once on an Oberheim Matrix 12 from Ebay user: "*****", your name is Melissa mailing from ******* and you want me to email back to ******** I can understand you use different emailadresses but if you're not faviolopez, how do you know I am interested in a Matrix 12 (I am!!!)? Just curious, I'm quite new to this ebay thing. -You say you had a contract with a mall in Europe and the item remained in your stock, I do not understand this, is the unit in Europe already (that would save a lot of shipping costs) or did a mall screw you after being the highest bidder and are you thus contacting other bidders?
Having said that, I am interested in a Matrix 12 big time, please let me know how much you want for it, how you suggest we handle payment and what shipping and insurance costs will be.
****, Holland
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3:
hello ****,
i have your email from ebay, i am an ebay member , and i have seen that you have bid for the Matrix, that is why i have contacted you.
My location now is in Italy, and yes the product is here and in good condition,
i want to complete the deal because this remained in my stock and it is no use to me.
i look for 1300 USD, and i will pay for the shipping fees.
if interested mail me and we'll establish a method that insurres us both.
kind regards
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En ik weer 4:
Hi,
1300 including shipping is a very reasonable price. I stopped bidding because it was going too high for me but 1300 I can manage quite well. But is this the same Matrix 12 as the one I was bidding on or did you just look for people wanting to buy a Matrix 12?
Anyhow, I am interested, not too much can go wrong with shipping from Italy to Holland so this is even better than shipping from the US. I have a credit card and can also do a bank transfer, how do you suggest we handle this and what guarantees can you give me?
You say good condition, not mint, what makes it good instead of mint if you understand what I mean?
Regards,
****
Oh I almost forgot, which software version is in the Matrix?
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En nu net krijg ik dit binnen: 5:
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about the method of payment method i am afraid i can not use credit card because i have had a very unpleasnat surprise and i have lost 500 USD last month, it is not a big amount but it matters.
here is what i sugest:i will cover all the shipping costs, including the ensurance of the package. I will use the fastest Ups method: UPS Air delivery in no more then 36 hours the package will arrive at your door.
But in
order for you to know that i am worthy to be trusted
i took some security measures to prevent any
problems.
You can make a deposit on a relatives
name(wife,mother)but on my address in Milano so i
can check if the amount established is there using the
information from you:sender' name and full
address,receiver's name and full address and MTCN.When
you receive the package if the product is suitable for
you,i trust you to chage the receiver's name with my
name in order to pick the founds,if not you can send
the product back and you can easily take your money
back.
Mail me your full name and address, you i can post the package at UPS, and provide you the tracking number,
the matrix is in mint condition, here are the details about it:
SPECIFICATIONS
(en dan volgt een mega lijst specs die iedereen van internet kan halen)
kind regards
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Ze/Hij zegt dus volgens mij geld overmaken naar zijn/haar adres maar een andere naam en dan als ik tevreden ben met de synth (voor een Matrix 12 van 1300 pleuro gaat de doos niet eens open) de naam veranderen in de juiste. Ik heb niet veel ervaring met money transfers but this stinks like pussy that's been dancin' all nite!

Ik denk dat ik ga antwoorden: You know what? You send me the synth and if i like it I pay you with my body :-)

En uiteraard ebay ff informeren, en jullie bij deze, als ik geen antwoord krijg roep ik de namen uiteraard even!
 
Er zijn genoeg aanbiedingen die buiten eBay om worden gedaan waar een luchtje aan zit,
maar dit stinkt als een ouwe sok, gevuld met rotte vis.

Als die Matrix 12 al aan een hogere bieder verkocht is, hoe kan ze die dan aan jou
aanbieden? En als je niet de hoogste bieder was, hoe komt ze dan aan jouw email adres?
Maar de meest stupide opmerking is wel "You can easily take your money back".
No way!!! Wou je naar de bank gaan en zeggen "Haal ff dat geld voor me terug dankuwel
alsjeblieft"? Ze zien je aankomen!

Bovendien slaat de hele redenering nergens op. Als je mij niet vertrouwt, stuur het
geld dan maar naar mijn familie, want die is wél te vertrouwen. :dubbel:

Weet je wat, ik ben Kees, dus stuur jij die 1300 euro maar naar m'n broer Senso, dan
komt het allemaal dik in orde. :D

Die hele correspondentie gelijk ff doorsturen naar eBay, en als de sodeju de hoogste
bieder waarschuwen of door eBay laten waarschuwen. Anders is die z'n spaarcentjes kwijt.

Afmaken, die teringlijers! :(
 
Ik hou em nog ff aan het lijntje met:
Hi (whats your name?),
That’s a bummer, loosing so much money on an internet trade scam, terrible. How could this happen?

Being relatively new to buying synthesizers this way I sincerely hope this wouldn’t happen to me at any time and I assume you will also take any necessary precautions to do so in the future so I also assume you have no problem with answering the next few questions clearly before I rush to the bank:

-Can you tell me a bit more about yourself, how long you have had the synth and why you are getting rid of it?

-Can you give me your address and the address and account of the bank so I can check how the transfer will work and what the transfer will cost

-I do not quite understand my “insurance” what I make of your email is that you suggest I send the money to your bank to your address but to another name, assuming you won’t be able to take this money out of the bank.

It appears fair but isn’t solid enough, what about bank account numbers? I can’t send any money to a bank without a bank account number can I?
If I understood you correctly I do not think this is such a good idea. I am not saying I don’t trust you, but you having been through what you have been through last month I hope you can understand me saying: You have Bank+bankaccount number+senders name and address but not the correct name. I don’t know how it works in Italy but over here I would be able to take that money out of the bank.

Please either tell me I do not understand what you are saying or suggest another safer way to do this, maybe through a third party.

En stel, als er nog antwoord komt voor dat ik wel naar Italie kom om met een Matrix 6 z'n hoofd in te slaan ofzo :doei:
 
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