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rare zaak

rare zaak

oke,

ik het volgende aan me fiets hangen, ik heb wat gear te koop staan waaronder een Yamaha SU700, nu kreeg ik een engels mailtje waarin iemand geinteresseerd is, maar de eventuele betaling verloopt nogal omslachtig. Hier de mail:

Good Day ,
Thanks for your Reply, the price(550 euro's ) and is okay and agreed by me,Your word is great,so kindly take your time and i need you to know that am well prepared in buying the (machine ) from you,so please keep other buyers off. Do not forget to send me the pictures if available,i will want you to try and get back to me with the present condition at state now and Inrespect of payment. I have contacted my Client in the States who owes me a sum of (3500 euro's ) all i will do is to instruct him to issue you a cheque on my behalf and when you have gotten the cheque you will deduct your said amount and wire the remaining balance via western union money transfer to my international shipper's,So that they will come for the pick up at your location as soon as payment is received by them.My shipper's who i have talked things over with about the pick up says they will want you to make thing's happy and to make sure that you make all the important pappers are in place to avoid shipping delay.My shipper'swill email you as soon as you recieve the payment so that they cangive you thier contact address were you will be wiring my remainingbalance to,So that they can come for the pick up at your location assoon possible.I will like to know if i can trust you to send mybalance. Am doing this to make the payment easier and faster.
Furnish me with your full contact that are bellow,
FULL NAME.................(that the cheque should be issued to) FULL CONTACT ADDRESS......... STATE...... COUNTERY...... ZIP CODE............... PHONE NUMBER........... CELL PHO.
Hoping to read from you as quickly as possible
My regards to your families as well...Have a nice
day..........Nick.

wat vinden jullie hiervan, riekt bij mij naar oplichting of ben ik nu te panisch?
 
Re: rare zaak

Re: rare zaak

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oke,

ik het volgende aan me fiets hangen, ik heb wat gear te koop staan waaronder een Yamaha SU700, nu kreeg ik een engels mailtje waarin iemand geinteresseerd is, maar de eventuele betaling verloopt nogal omslachtig. Hier de mail:



wat vinden jullie hiervan, riekt bij mij naar oplichting of ben ik nu te panisch?

is oplichting, doe maar een search op dit forum en dan zie je dit zelfde type mailtje voorbijkomen.
 
"whenever there is doubt, there is no doubt"

zou t niet doen
 
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Duidelijk verhaal! Vond het al een te gelikt mailtje...

Maar goed, lang leve het forum :) weer een zieltje gered!

Heb gelukkig nog meer geinteresseerde dus komt wel goed.
 
Sorry bit, maar moest je daar echt over nadenken?
I have contacted my Client in the States who owes me a sum of (3500 euro's ) all i will do is to instruct him to issue you a cheque on my behalf and when you have gotten the cheque you will deduct your said amount and wire the remaining balance via western union money transfer to my international shipper's

Of ligt dat aan mij dat ik zo'n verhaal al direct naar de trashbin verban?
 
Vond het op het eerste gezicht al raar, maar leek me in eerste instantie veilig vanwege het geld dat eerst op mijn rekening zou worden gestort, maar na het goed lezen van de email had ik het zaakje al wel door ja.

Maar wilde het zowiezo posten om het op het forum bekend te maken, zodat anderen er niet per ongeluk instinken.
 
Wellicht al overbodig, maar toch .....

http://www.soundonsound.com/news?NewsID=6904&session=13a4fbad8def9d36aaf42d7539220a01

News
Nigerian Cheque Scam in SOS Readers Ads 27/08/2004
(Miscellaneous)
WARNING - do not fall for this Overpayment scam!!
SOS have posted various warnings across our site, in the Forum, and on the main Login screen that everybody who sells gear on the Readers Ads site has to pass through, so here is another warning, since some users of the site feel we are not doing enough to stop these scammers even though they do not bother to read the warnings we post!
Sellers: please click and READ THIS WARNING please or risk being ripped off.
SOS, being conscientious, already deliberately hides the email address of every seller to stop auto-harvesting programs from being run against our site and grabbing any email address they find on our web pages. These scammers are manually contacting sellers using our Email To forms. There is nothing else SOS are aware of that can be done to stop contact, otherwise it'll stop legitimate contacts too.
BE WARNED: the scammers always send more money than you are asking for the goods on-sale in Readers Ads (they don't care about your gear) and their cheques will clear into your bank, only to be stopped/refused weeks later, so under no circumstances send them a cheque from your account for the balance. People have, and now bitterly regret it, being left with an unwanted overdraft when the cheque (drawn on a UK bank) eventually bounces.
One email name they commonly use is: john_fredauto@graffiti.net
Contact your local police if you have been scammed, though their reaction is usually that they can do nothing to help according to the poor souls who have been ripped off already and reported it. However, we have been informed that your local Trading Standards Officer is more likely to investigate such fraud.
Finally, we should reiterate that 1000s of satisfied readers experience no problems when using the SOS Readers Ads service and continue to do so happily.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"I recently got caught out also with a fraudulent cheque after advertising on your site. The buyer ( Martina Meoula) agreed to pay for the item in full, she claimed she was living in Australia and that someone in England owed her some money, she said if possible could I accept a cheque for more than twice the amount as a favour and I could send her the difference with the goods. Unknowingly I agreed, as she seemed genuine as she knew a bit about what I was selling. I received the cheque etc., it cleared into my account and I paid a few nagging bills with my money as you do. Well, next while lifting money from a machine, my card was taken, I went to the Building Society only to find out that my account was frozen and seriously overdrawn as the Building Society had taken the money back out of my account. I am now left with no bank account and facing bankruptcy as a result as I can't pay my direct debits etc. as my bank account is frozen and I can't even open up a new account as they have placed a mark against my name. The Building Society who I shall not mention have certainly give me a little extra, they have been unhelpful, unsympathetic and downright rude and have treated me like a criminal. Even after a letter from the Police who where dealing with this matter, they stated that it was still my fault. I do not blame sound on sound in any way, you offer a great service with your classified ads etc. and run a great site in general. But if you could maybe make people aware of this name, so that they don't fall into the same trap as me."
 
Re: rare zaak

Re: rare zaak

Origineel geplaatst door Bitcrusher
well prepared in buying the (machine ) from you,so please keep other buyers off.

hahaa, de sukkel vergeet zelfs in te vullen over welk apparaat het gaat. Hij heeft per ongeluk "machine" laten staan wat in zijn standaard documentje staat.
 
heb zo'n mailtje ook al verschillende malen gehad. van een kerel uit zuidafrika enzo, en een vriend van me, die een parker gitaar verkocht, heeft juist hetzelfde meegemaakt. eerst trapte ik er ook in, maar had al vrij snel door hoe de vork aan de steel zat. best niet op antwoorden...
 
En weer een nieuwe methode via Ebay:

Hi there,I live in London Uk and I love this camera, I am ready to offer 1400Eur immediatly for it ,but only if we use as payment method an escrow service which ensure both the buyer and the seller for fraud.As you can check and see I am a verry serious eBayer with 100% positive feedback(you can check it).Plese reply me as soon as possible.Anyway if you agree please also send me the final amount with shipping included.I will pay for escrow fees Regards. Quick reply will be gladly appreciated

Wat zie je als je zijn profiel opzoekt:


http://feedback.ebay.nl/ws1/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewFeedback&userid=londonbit14&items=25

Vandaag aangemeld, 0 positieve reacties en woont in Frankrijk.
 
:( En ja hoor heb ik weer zoiets. Ik zag een MS-20 staan op e-bay maar volgens de beschrijving moest ik eerst me melden om in aanmerking te komen voor het bieden(om te zien of ik te vertrouwen ben dacht ik). Maar er stonden twee e-mail adressen waar ik me dus moest aanmelden. Ook de locatie was vreemd, object in Spanje maar bieden in US$. Uiteindelijk gewoon via de knop vragen aan verkoper het volgende bericht gestuurd:

(dit zijn kopien uit mijn email dus vandaar dat het er zo uitziet)

>>jhc> Question for item #5522155920 - Korg MS-20 MS20 Synthesizer Kenton box
>>
>>jhc> Question about your itemQuestion about your item
>>
>>
>>jhc> Dear hbrueckner,
>>
>>jhc> Hi!
>>
>>jhc> I was wondering if I should respond in this way or send you
>>jhc> an e-mail either to: dealhere@HotPOP.com or nextar@gawab.com.
>>
>>jhc> I am very interested in the MS-20. Do you come from the
>>jhc> U.S.A. and is the object located in Spain? That is not really
>>jhc> clear to me.
>>
>>jhc> I hope to hear from you soon!
>>
>>jhc> With kind regards,
>>
>>jhc> Jaap(the Netherlands)

Hierop kreeg ik vrij snel het volgende antwoord:

>>From: "Best Shops Ltd." <molozeala@hotpop.com>
>>Reply-To: "Best Shops Ltd." <molozeala@hotpop.com>
>>To: XXXXXXXXXX
>>Subject: Re: Question for item #5522155920 - Korg MS-20 MS20 Synthesizer &
>>Kenton box
>>Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:51:53 +0300
>>
>>Hello jaapvk,
>>
>>Would you be interested in buying this new item now ? My prices are
>>fair and I am willing to negotiate.
>>You can do that instead of all bidding process which takes time and
>>give you no reassurance you will win the item.
>>
>>Let me know at your earliest convenience.
>>
>>
>>Thanks in advance.

Uiteraard vertrouwde ik dit dus niet. Ik heb geantwoord met wat strikvragen enzo:

JvK> Hello,

JvK> Yes I am interested!

JvK> I have a few questions:
JvK> - What do you call a fair price?
JvK> - Where is the item located?
JvK> - A common problem with this synth is the sub-audio harmonizer. Is this
JvK> still working properly? (ik had wat inspiratie uit eerdere posts in deze thread :D)
JvK> - Did it have the upgrade for the wavetables? :D
JvK> - Did you use it yourself?
JvK> - If so what is your experience with it?

JvK> With kind regards,

JvK> Jaap

Nou vandaag dus het volgende antwoord gehad:

Hello Jaap,

The final price including shipping and insurance will be 820.00USD.

The items we sell are brand new in factory sealed box.
They are covered by full warranty from the manufacturer.
We don't know each other so we need a safe way to conduct this transaction.
eBay offers purchase protection plans for these situations
They will decide how you pay me so you can be insured for the entire value of
this purchase.
In case you don't get what you are paying for, you get a full refund from eBay.
I have deposited $20,000 as purchase protection in an eBay managed account.
I am not able to withdraw any money from this account while there are any
possible
refund requests (60 days since the last transaction)I need you full name
and shipping address now I will contact eBay and they will get back to us when
the needed
verifications are done and you got the purchase protection.
This may take a few hours, so please be patient. You will be able to verify the
validity
of your purchase protection after you have qualified for it
They will give us a transaction number. Please keep it safe. Should a refund is
needed,
you e-mail them the payment proof and the transaction number in order to get
your money back.
Let me know your decision.


Thanks in advance.

Lijkt me duidelijk dus want volgens mij bestaat zo'n systeem dus niet. Zal ook zeker niet te gebruiken zijn als we e-bay omzeilen in de verkoop! Overigens had deze verkoper behoorlijk wat positieve feedback. Dus dat is zeker ook geen garantie!

Ik heb het ook geprobeerd te melden bij e-bay maar dat lukt niet fout op de contactpagina ofzo. Ik probeer het thuis nog wel een keer.

Helaas pindakaas dus, ach ik zoek gewoon lekker verder :)

J.

p.s. lijkt het maar of zijn dit soort praktijken aan het toenemen op e-bay?
 
Origineel geplaatst door jaxxon
Overigens had deze verkoper behoorlijk wat positieve feedback. Dus dat is zeker ook geen garantie!
klopt. ik had het ook een keer en toen bleek na onderzoek door ebay dat het om een gehackte account ging. gewoon aangeven bij ebay. tering aan die hufters.

wat een eikels trouwens. ms20, brand new sealed box? niet eens de moeite doen voor een beetje research
 
Een hele partij nog ingepakte tb303 ergens in een pakhuis in China was ook zo'n hele mooi.......................:kont:
 
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