Het SP-12/SP-1200 topic

Origineel geplaatst door Nowald
Zonde idd, 5,25 inch floppies slaan helemaal nergens op. Via welk protocol sluit je de externe 5,25 flop drive aan? Zou daar geen modificatie mogelijk zijn om bijv. een externe hd er aan te hangen?

Ik heb dit al eens eerder aan Matrixxx en Boemtsjak voorgelegd, echter
die zien (nog) geen aanleiding om hier aan te beginnen.
 
Dan moeten we de SP-12 maar eens flink hypen zodat die vraag steeds vaker gesteld wordt. En misschien dat hij dan ook meteen twee keer zoveel waard wordt. 8~
 
En dan bedoel ik niet dat ze er geen brood in zien, maar
op technisch vlak heeft het meer voeten in de aarde dan
je zou denken.
SP-serie is natuurlijk al legendarisch, die hoeft zich niet
meer te bewijzen;)
 
Origineel geplaatst door mikemix
Ik heb dit al eens eerder aan Matrixxx en Boemtsjak voorgelegd, echter
die zien (nog) geen aanleiding om hier aan te beginnen.

FireWire poort op m'n SP-1200 lijkt me wel wat :yamaha:
 
http://www.2av.com.ua/indexe.htm HDM-uniflash


compactflash als floppydrive!!!! wil dit ooit nog eens proberen in mijn dss-1.
Daarnaast is boemtsjak op dit moment bezig een compactflash reader via scsi aan te sluiten
In mijn Emu Emulator III m.b.v. een microstar dubble cfreader. Hopelijk heb ik straks 2x 800mb aan sounds ;-)
 
Dat zou wel gaaf zijn. :)
 
Een oude powermac of powerbook met serial port, OS9 en SP-12 librarian. Werkt prima !
 
als je dan toch met OS9 werkt...
er bestaat een programmaatje genaamd "Alchemy" waarmee je samples van- en naar de SP1200 kan sturen via MIDI.
handig om snel te editten en ook 44khz samples te uploaden (Alchemy converteert het automatisch naar SP1200 formaat).

hier te downloaden onder "files"
(eerst ff lid worden)
 
Origineel geplaatst door mrk
Een oude powermac of powerbook met serial port, OS9 en SP-12 librarian. Werkt prima !

En waar kun je dat programma vinden? Ik kan geen site meer vinden van Water's Edge software.
 
Contact Steve Makohin at Waters Edge Software for more information and to place an order for the software. wateredg@interlog.com

Met dit programma kan je de RAM geluiden opslaan en archiveren op je Apple, dus NIET knippen en plakken.
 
Ik ga dat e-mailadres eens proberen. Ik hoop dat het nog werkt en dat de software nog verkrijgbaar is. Alleen dan wel tegen een aantrekkelijkere prijs dan op het Emulator Archive staat vermeld, anders wordt de aanschaf van de soft- en hardware (ik heb geen Mac) een prijzige zaak.
 
Dat weet ik, maar dat programma zou $99 moeten kosten. :erm:
 
Is nog te koop en kost idd $99,- rond de E75,-. Een oude mac kan je voor heel weinig krijgen. Heb je voor E100,- opslag en archivering van al je SP12 samples. Alternatieven, een commodore 1541 floppy drive of een SP1200.
 
Binnen no time heb ik al antwoord. :)

Deze reply lijkt me voor andere SP-12 eigenaars ook interessant, dus...

Yes, it is available :-)

SP-12 Librarian is an application that saves and loads digital samples, songs and sequences from E-mu Systems' SP-12 sampling drum machine to an Apple Macintosh computer. The rest of this email tells you about SP-12 Librarian and how you can get it. I have included the SP-12 Librarian user manual in PDF (Adobe Acrobat Reader) format.



Please make sure that SP-12 Librarian is compatible with your Macintosh computer and MIDI hardware, as indicated later in this email in the "System Requirements" section.



-Steve Makohin

President/Owner

Water's Edge Software

SP-12 Librarian by Water's Edge Software

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"SP-12 Librarian" for E-mu System's SP-12 and SP-12 Turbo digital drum machine lets you save and load sounds and sequences in a fraction of the time by using your Apple Macintosh computer.



Sounds, songs, and song segments can be named to help organize your work. Also, the SP-12 Librarian's Sound Catalog keeps track of your entire SP-12 sample library, so you do not have to do it manually. And of course, the Sound Catalog can be printed at any time to document your library. So can sound files and song files.



The SP-12 Librarian for the Macintosh -- We are putting more power in your SP-12.











SP-12 Librarian Features

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General

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o The SP-12's data is saved on Macintosh disks (hard disks, floppies,

optical, removable disks, just about anything)



o Saves and loads files a lot faster than the Commodore(tm) 1541 disk

drive or cassettes. It runs at MIDI's maximum performance limit.



o SP-12 Librarian files are compact. A single 800K floppy disk can

store about 5 average sound files, or a few dozen huge sequence files.



o "Fail Safe" file management makes sure you do not lose an existing

file if something goes wrong while you are updating it with new SP-12

data.



o Each SP-12 Librarian disk is inspected for computer viruses before

leaving our facility.



o Compatible with System 6 (using Finder or MultiFinder) System 7, and

Mac OS 8.



o Memory efficient. Will run with as little as 180K. Requires no more

than 400K for maximum performance.



o Comprehensive, illustrated User's Manual.



o Full support for monochrome, gray-scale and color monitors, as well

as Macintoshes with multiple monitors.





Sound Files

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o Each sound can be named. This includes ROM samples too!



o The names of all 32 sounds can be displayed on your Macintosh

simultaneously. The sounds are organized into banks, just like your

SP-12.



o Each sound indicates if it is a RAM or ROM sample.



o Each sound can be classified in a manner that suits you best,

such as: Kick Drums, Toms, Electric Toms, Cymbals, Hi-Hats, etc. You

create the classifications.



o The SP-12 Librarian can remember a list of sound categories. This

list can be used to standardize and simplify your classification of

sounds by being able to select a classification from a standard list

rather than typing the name in each time.



o Each sound's Name, Category, Channel Number, Mix Level, Tune/Decay

Selection, Tune/Decay Value, Sample Time, and Loop can be viewed

on your Mac simultaneously.



o Each sound's Name, Category, Channel Number, Mix Level, Tune/Decay

Selection, and Tune/Decay Value can be edited on the SP-12 Librarian.



o You can alter the tuning and decay of ROM sounds beyond the range

that is possible when using the SP-12's control panel. This lets you

expand the sonic potential of your SP-12 beyond its current

capabilities.





Sequence Files

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o Each song and song segment can be named.



o Both songs and song segments are viewed simultaneously in the same

window.





Sound Catalog

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o The Sound Catalog is a comprehensive listing of your SP-12 sample

library, regardless of where those files are stored (i.e., across

multiple disks, CD-ROMS, etc). It is an index of all your samples,

and it can tell you where to find them.



o The Sound Catalog can be sorted by sound file. This list is best

suited for determining the contents of each sound file.



o The Sound Catalog can also be sorted by category. This list is best

suited when looking for a particular type of sample. For example,

all the "Snare" samples are grouped together, indicating the file

where you can find each sample.





Printing

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o Sound files, sequence files and the Sound Catalog can all be printed.

The SP-12 Librarian produces professional results, even on old impact

printers.



o Reports are printed in the font and font size of your choice.







System Requirements

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o A Macintosh desktop computer (512KE or later). This includes

Macintoshes with 680x0 and PowerPC processors. Laptops, notebooks,

Duos, and the Macintosh Portable are not supported. Non-

Macintosh computers, including PCs, are not supported.



o Your Macintosh must have built-in serial ports. These are the

"classic" Modem port and Printer port (not USB ports).



o You need a MIDI interface for the Macintosh with 2 MIDI cables.

The MIDI interface must attached to your Macintosh using either

the Printer port or Modem port (mentioned above), both of which

are built-in serial ports. SP-12 Librarian requires only one (1)

MIDI input (SP-12 drum machine to MIDI interface) and one (1)

MIDI output (MIDI interface to SP-12 drum machine). Additional

MIDI ports are not required by SP-12 Librarian, though they are

not detrimental. The two MIDI cables connect your MIDI

interface's IN and OUT ports to the SP-12's MIDI IN and MIDI OUT

ports.



o System 6, System 7, or Mac OS 8.x is required on your Macintosh.

SP-12 Librarian does not support Mac OS 9 or newer.



o Two floppy disk drives, or a hard disk



o Printer (optional)



o E-mu Systems SP-12 or SP-12 Turbo drum machine (SP-1200 is not

supported)



o SP-12 Librarian takes exclusive control of a user-selectable

serial port (either the Printer port or the Modem port) while

it is running. It does not require MIDI middle-ware software

such as OMS or FREEMIDI.



SP-12 Librarian is a "Classic" application that is written in 680x0 code, but it will run perfectly on Macs with a PowerPC processor too. We have no plans to update or upgrade SP-12 Librarian. If your current computer does not meet the System Requirements listed above, please consider getting an older model, pre-owned, and very inexpensive Macintosh, such a Mac Plus, Macintosh II, Macintosh LC, or other similar model that meets the SP-12 Librarian's System Requirements.







Test Comparison

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In actual tests, the SP-12 Librarian always out-performed the Commodore 1541 disk drive, and the cassette interface. The results are conclusive. If you are not using the SP-12 Librarian, you are spending too much time waiting on your drum machine. Time is shown in minutes:seconds.



SP-12 1541 Cassette

Librarian Disk Drive Interface

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Save SP-12 Sounds 1:42 12:05 12:15

(0.25 disks) (2 disks)



Load SP-12 Sounds 1:42 4:20 12:15



Save SP-12 Sequences 0:22 2:19 2:19

(0.05 disks) (1 disk)



Load SP-12 Sequences 0:19 0:50 2:19





Test Conditions:

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When testing the SP-12 Librarian, a standard Macintosh Plus was used with two 800K floppy disk drives. The SP-12 Librarian startup disk was in the internal drive, and a blank, formatted disk was in the external drive. If you use a hard disk, you will obtain slightly better results (about 10% faster).



In all cases, an SP-12 Turbo (5 seconds of sampling time) with version 2.6 software was used. The sample or sequence memory was completely full, depending on the data being saved.



Timing was started when the SP-12 command was entered, and ended when the SP-12 displayed "Cassette/Disk Complete." In all cases, the required disk or tape was inserted and ready to be used prior to starting timing. In the event that a second disk was required (as with the Commodore 1541 disk drive), the time required to insert a new disk and restart the SP-12 was not included (actual time takes a little longer).



The SP-12 Librarian's disk requirements were based on an empty 800K disk which actually has 779K available for use. The sound file was 194K, and the sequence file was 37K. Both files do not include extra disk space that is consumed by naming sounds, songs, and segments.



Note that with SP-12 Librarian, you also save time by not having to verify that your SP-12's data was saved correctly because this is done automatically by the librarian and the Macintosh as your data is being saved. When including data verification times, the performance difference is even more pronounced:



SP-12 1541 Cassette

Librarian Disk Drive Interface

------------ ---------- ---------

Save SP-12 Sounds 1:42 16:25* 24:30*

and verify



Save SP-12 Sequences 0:22 3:09 4:38

and verify



*Plus additional time required to change floppies or tapes, and to

rewind tapes.







How To Buy The SP-12 Librarian

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You can purchase the SP-12 Librarian for US$99. We can ship SP-12 Librarian to you by email at no additional charge, or we can ship it to you on a 1.4 MB floppy disk for an additional US$5. SP-12 Librarian includes a user manual in Adobe Acrobat format (also known as "PDF" format). You can get a free copy of Adobe Acrobat Reader from www.adobe.com.



Payment can be made by credit card (American Express only, no others, sorry), by PayPal, or by postal money order.



Please send the following information when placing your order:



Full Name

Company Name (if applicable)

Street Address

City, State/Province

Country

Zip/Postal Code



Day Time Phone number



Select which product you want

[ ] SP-12 Librarian for Macintosh + User Manual by email

(US$99)

[ ] SP-12 Librarian for Macintosh + User Manual by mail

on a floppy disk (US$99 + $5 = $104)



For credit card orders, please include the following additional information:



Credit Card Number

(American Express only -- Sorry, no other cards)

Card holder's name as it appears on the card

Expiration date



For Paypal payments: Send me your email address that is associated with your Paypal account (but NOT your password!). I will send you a Request For Payment (an invoice) through Paypal. I will send you the software by email shortly after I receive your Paypal payment.



You can place your order in one of three ways:

(1) Email to <wateredg@interlog.com>

(2) Fax to 1-905-847-1638

(3) Letter to:

Water's Edge Software

1457 Postmaster Drive

Oakville, Ontario

Canada

L6M 2Z4



If you are concerned about Internet security, you can send two emails, each with only half of your credit card information (i.e., first half of card number and first half of expiration date, followed by the second half of the information).







Reading the enclosed User Manual

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The enclosed SP-12 Librarian user manual is in PDF format (Adobe Acrobat Reader) format. You can get a free copy of Adobe Acrobat Reader at www.adobe.com. If you are on a Macintosh, you have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed, and you cannot open the manual by double-click it, first open Adobe Acrobat Reader, then open the manual from within Adobe Acrobat Reader by choosing the File menu's Open command.

Ik ga het eens bestuderen en kijken of ik het dit geld waard vind.
 

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MAC OS

MAC OS

Specificaties zeggen dat het niet onder OS9 draait, dat doet het wel.
 
Origineel geplaatst door Lotuz
Witte knopjes. Mmmmm...
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Die stond op ebay.com Heb em ook gezien. Had gelijk het hebbe hebbe gevoel.. :D


Mijn SP12 werkt trouwens nogsteeds niet!!! :(
Zo dichtbij en toch ok weer zo ver weg :D
 
Ik heb een tijdje terug de Otium Sonitex plugin gekocht en heb zojuist gekeken of ik het SP-12 geluid ermee kon benaderen. Ik moet zeggen dat het resultaat op snares en rimshots bevredigend is. Een klein beetje EQ en het lijkt er best goed op. Dus voor drums zou ik eigenlijk geen SP-12 nodig hebben en ik denk dat ik dan ook niet verder ga met het resamplen van al m'n snares.

Het gaat echter mis bij langere geluiden. Ik heb bijvoorbeeld een harp gesampled en daarbij merk je dat de vermorming toch wel duidelijk verschilt. De vervorming bij diverse toonhoogten klinkt vrijwel hetzelfde bij de plugin en varieert meer bij de SP-12. En wanneer je de tune slider van de SP-12 in de middenstand zet, hoor je nauwelijks vervorming terwijl dat voor de plugin niet uitmaakt. Maar nogmaals, die plugin die ik in m'n laatste twee beats al had uitgeprobeerd, klinkt helemaal niet verkeerd. Je kunt er alleen geen Emulator mee emuleren. Natuurlijk weet je dat van tevoren, maar het is wel leuk om dat zelf eens uit te proberen. :)

Ik ga weer even verder met het bestuderen van de SP-12.
 
Waarschijnlijk is het antwoord "nee", maar ik vraag het toch maar voor de zekerheid. Ik ben door de SP-12 in een Old School mood geraakt en als oefening om de sequencer te leren kennen, heb twee loops gesampled. Eentje is een breakbeat die vrijwel naadloos loopt op 96 BPM. De andere loop loopt net iets te snel. Dit heb ik enigszins gecamoufleerd door het einde iets lager in te spelen. Is het ook mogelijk de samples te finetunen zodat ik deze net iets langzamer kan laten lopen?
 

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